1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 What was the EMF reading in here when we did a reading? 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:03,520 What do you got? 3 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,000 0.8, 0.7. 4 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Yeah. 5 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,080 1.0, steady 1.1. 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,080 I got a 1.7 right here. 7 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:12,800 See it? 8 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,040 1.8, 2.1. 9 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,400 We had a completely unexplainable EMF reading. 10 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,280 No, I think 2.5 now, 2.6. 11 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,360 It was a centralized spike, and it lasted about five minutes. 12 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,400 Well, the laser switch is right here. 13 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,200 It goes down. 14 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,320 It goes down when you go around the corner. 15 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,760 1.5, getting like a 2. 16 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,760 If this was a residual type of energy, 17 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,760 like leaking light socket or leaking energy source, 18 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,080 it would continuously stay there. 19 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,160 It wouldn't come and go. 20 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:44,680 Now at 0.2, 0.4. 21 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Look, it's gone. 22 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,200 No light. 23 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,400 That's weird. 24 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,480 And so to have a spike of 4.05.0 for a few minutes 25 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,160 and then have it not there at all is very interesting. 26 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,320 OK. 27 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Hey. 28 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,320 Hi. 29 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:10,200 What's up, guys? 30 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,840 When you guys go into your room, watch for a spike. 31 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,760 There's a chair on the right when you first walk in. 32 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,280 Sit there and watch for a spike through. 33 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,360 This chair right here. 34 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,240 Down right there? 35 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,760 When you guys go up, they're spending some time 36 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,760 sitting in that room. 37 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,760 Because that's where we caught that thing. 38 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,360 What'd you catch? 39 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,160 A shoot. 40 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,480 It was Satan. 41 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,440 Satan really? 42 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,400 No, we caught something. 43 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,760 An apparition there that we could not recreate. 44 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,040 And spikes from 0.8 went up to 7. 45 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,400 7.1 was the highest we got. 46 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,320 I think I left my little red flashlight. 47 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:41,800 Make sure you look for it when you're up there. 48 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,080 OK. 49 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Oh, wait, no. 50 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,360 I got it right here. 51 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:45,880 Straight this one. 52 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,480 OK, I got it. 53 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,480 Yes. 54 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,280 Hey, hey. 55 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:55,920 Do you guys want to swap? 56 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Yeah, if you guys want to hang out here, we'll go up there. 57 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Well, we'll take EMF and you have an EPP. 58 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:00,800 OK, take a video. 59 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,240 A video? 60 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,080 Still rolling. 61 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Still rolling? 62 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:03,080 All right. 63 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:03,800 See you guys later. 64 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Have fun. 65 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:05,920 See you guys later. 66 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,520 Good luck. 67 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,320 Oh, thank you. 68 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,320 See you. 69 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:14,720 Right. 70 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,000 What? 71 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,280 We're ready to wrap up Donna somewhere. 72 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,080 Just like feeling good. 73 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:19,600 Or something. 74 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Not feeling good. 75 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,400 Jane Granner checking out an abandoned mine. 76 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,400 Yeah, I heard about that. 77 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,880 Jay and I decided to come down to the Copper Queen mine. 78 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,400 We heard a couple reports, but they were pretty loose. 79 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,320 You know, we decided that we'd try and check out 80 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,160 some of the claims. 81 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,880 I guess 11 people died actually in here mining. 82 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,040 Everything from being electrocuted to, you know, 83 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:41,720 caverns. 84 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,120 OK, I'm Pete. 85 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Do a guide. 86 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,440 How you doing, Pete? 87 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,040 Great, nice to meet you. 88 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,160 I understand you guys want to go up and explore. 89 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Thank you very much, buddy. 90 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,200 I've worked in the mines for around 30 years. 91 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,720 It's kind of a scary place. 92 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,680 Sometimes you hear some noises and you don't know what it is. 93 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Well, it may be just some kind of background. 94 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,720 It may be something else. 95 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,240 Holy crap. 96 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,040 One guy was operating on one of these. 97 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,680 A hot wire broke the security. 98 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,800 Another guy was pulling some rock out of a shoe. 99 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,360 A bunch of mud and water come out. 100 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,360 One guy got buried in a field. 101 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,960 Seriously, man, it's like dead quiet down here. 102 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,920 You don't hear anything. 103 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:31,040 Dude, you're under 50 million tons of rock. 104 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,240 They might find a guy up there drilling with a machine. 105 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,480 That's our local ghost in here, headless John. 106 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,040 You cannot see him. 107 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,240 If you turn your lights out, you may hear him. 108 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,880 And if you hear him, you turn your lights on, he's gone. 109 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,380 Wow. 110 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,560 So the leading cause of fatalities on here was what? 111 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,880 Fall of ground. 112 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,680 That's the one thing you're worried about the most 113 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,760 is right over your head. 114 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Comes in on you, it'll get you. 115 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Well, I'm worried about that enough now. 116 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,560 Let's get that all out of here. 117 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,360 That's good. 118 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Let's get out of here, Pete, OK? 119 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,200 OK. 120 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,440 It's easy to understand why people would see something 121 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,000 in here. 122 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,840 It's a lot of complex shapes and shadows. 123 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,360 But personally, if I was a minor and I died, 124 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,680 I wouldn't be coming back here. 125 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:33,560 Today, I'm going to the Bisbee Mining and Historical Museum, 126 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,960 because I want to meet with one of the historians 127 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,000 to talk about some of these events that are claims that 128 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,440 have happened in the Copper Queen. 129 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,760 I even must be Gary Dillard. 130 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:42,280 I am. 131 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:43,720 I'm Donna LaCroix from TABs. 132 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,760 Well, welcome to Bisbee. 133 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,520 Please come this way. 134 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,600 Research is extremely important to TABs, 135 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,600 because it gives us some factual information to which 136 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,760 back up some of our stories that we hear from the clients. 137 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,880 Now, some of the claims, some of the stories that we have heard, 138 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,360 it was three main resident ghosts. 139 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,800 One was a woman. 140 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Her name was Julia Lowell. 141 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,240 What I know about her is very little. 142 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,680 The name Julia Lowell does appear in history, 143 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,960 but I haven't been able to trace any ties to the Copper 144 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:12,440 Queen. 145 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,160 Another one of our stories that we've heard 146 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,160 was a story of a little boy chased down 147 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,800 by his mother in the hotel and murdered. 148 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,480 Supposedly this little boy's apparition 149 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,320 is seen on the second floor. 150 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,400 The only news report that talked about a ghost 151 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,680 was actually involving a small boy. 152 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,480 The hotel was a commercial hotel until the mining shutdown 153 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,120 here in 1975. 154 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,080 Several of us who have done some historical research 155 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,720 here at Bisbee have tried to trace down someone or some event 156 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,800 that could be the cause of this. 157 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,600 And to the best of my knowledge, no one 158 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,960 has been successful. 159 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,920 OK, Gary, I really appreciate you sitting down with me today. 160 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:55,420 OK. 161 00:05:55,420 --> 00:05:56,640 Thank you so much, Gary. 162 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,920 I really appreciate your help. 163 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,640 What's going on? 164 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,120 Well, I just met with Gary over at the Bisbee 165 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,760 Mining and Historical Museum. 166 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,360 And I sat down with them to ask him 167 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,160 about some of the stories, some of the claims 168 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,200 that we've heard here. 169 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,960 For instance, the Julia Lowell story, 170 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,600 The Lady of the Night, he hasn't heard of her. 171 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,040 Same thing went for the man with the top hat, 172 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,760 who leaves cigarette smoke smells around the place. 173 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,240 I mean, it could have been a million guys with top hats 174 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,440 walking around this place in the day and age. 175 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,440 And the third item was the story about the little boy 176 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,200 who died by the hands of his mother here in the hotel. 177 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,320 The story goes is that the boy was chased by his mother 178 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,120 down the hall. 179 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,280 She grabbed him and put him in a tub of cold water 180 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:41,000 and persistently kept putting his head under the cold water. 181 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:41,400 Wait a minute. 182 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,640 I thought he drowned in the river. 183 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Yeah, that's what I heard. 184 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,200 After speaking with Gary, he was telling me 185 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,920 there was another boy around the same time period who 186 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,160 did drown in the river. 187 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:50,680 OK. 188 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,320 Gary was my best bet. 189 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,240 And he couldn't confirm or deny any of the stories. 190 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,320 You know how we go about it. 191 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,720 We try not to add names to the so-called spirits, 192 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,240 unless we're 100% sure. 193 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,240 But over generations and so forth, years have passed here. 194 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,800 So you've got to kind of go on with the local say to a point. 195 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,880 So this is the best it can come up with, guys. 196 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Good job. 197 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,200 All right. 198 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:13,800 Thank you. 199 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,800 All right.